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Emily Wessel

Hello - I'm from Vancouver Island, Canada, but I live and work in Edinburgh, Scotland. I am co-founder and designer at Tin Can Knits - www.tincanknits.com

124 Comments

  1. Heather T
    May 11, 2021 @ 11:46 am

    *ribbing not rubbing…darn autocorrect!

  2. Heather T
    May 11, 2021 @ 11:44 am

    Hi, first I want to say I love this pattern, it is very clearly written and the tutorials are great. This is my first sweater and I am really learning a lot. But I’m stuck now at the buttonholes. I followed the pattern instructions and your tutorials for three hole buttonholes but now I am no longer able to keep to the rubbing pattern at the buttonhole, it seems like an extra stitch has been introduced. Of the three original stitches, I have bound off two, leaving the third. And then I cast on three stitches. So I now have 4 stitches instead of three and it takes me out of the rubbing pattern in the next row. I am doing something wrong, just not sure what. Thanks!

    • Alexa Ludeman
      May 11, 2021 @ 11:45 am

      Hi Heather – So glad you are enjoying the process! If you bind off 2 sts, you want to cast on 2 sts (same for a larger button hole, if you bind off 3 sts, cast on 3 sts)

      • Heather T
        May 11, 2021 @ 2:07 pm

        Thanks, I think i figured out how I mis-read the pattern- where it says “Pass the first st over the second (bind off), [sl1, bind stich off] twice” I just did two bind-offs and it is actually three. I’m new to pattern-reading and I missed the square brackets. Lesson learned!

  3. Cari White
    May 7, 2021 @ 8:51 am

    Work short rows in Campfire pattern
    Not sure about the line that states”repeat last instruction a total of’
    Not sure if I am to repeat just the w&t postmarks or just past the gap the allotted amount of times?

    • Alexa Ludeman
      May 7, 2021 @ 10:39 am

      Hi Cari – You are going to repeat this instruction: Work in pattern to 3 sts from the gap, w&t

  4. Beliinda Devery
    May 2, 2020 @ 11:17 pm

    I see that another knitter has mentioned the small loop left by a w&t. Will it disappear when we pick up the wraps or do you recommend a German short row? I see there is actually a Japanese one for ribbing too.

  5. Jenny King
    November 14, 2019 @ 7:10 am

    Hi,
    I have almost completed a Jones for my husband and I am wondering if I should do a decreasing bind off around the back as recommended for the Gramps?
    Thanks.
    Jenny

    • alexaludeman
      November 19, 2019 @ 8:48 pm

      Hi Jenny – we wanted the collar to lay a bit flatter than the gramps, but if you prefer it to ‘stand up’ a little more a decrease bind off works great!

  6. Paula
    October 13, 2019 @ 10:31 am

    Hi,
    I’m having trouble understanding how to make the buttonholes. Could you please post images of that?

  7. Ruth Doyle
    January 22, 2019 @ 7:58 am

    I would like to knit the Lush pattern but before I buy the pattern I need to know is it a written pattern or a chart
    Regards Ruth

    • alexaludeman
      January 22, 2019 @ 9:33 pm

      Hi Ruth – the lace for this one is charted.

  8. Glenda Bell
    September 19, 2018 @ 7:34 am

    Love the visuals but this where I am confused. When you encounter a ‘wrapped’ stitch, you will slip the stitch to the RH needle, then use the LH needle to pick up the wrap, putting it on the LH needle as if it were a stitch. Then slip the original stitch back onto the LH needle. Now the wrap and the stitch are on the LH needle, next to one another, and you can either k2tog or p2tog, depending on whether that wrapped stitch is a knit or a purl.

    The written seems to deviate from the pictures. The only thing I see is inserting the right needle into the wrapped stitch then the stitch on the left hand needle and then k2tog. I also don’t see the wrap and stitch on the LH needle next to one another. I see this happening on the right needle before they are knitted together.

    I really want to buy this pattern but it’s a lot of work before getting to this point and I don’t want to get there and not be able to figure it out.

    The support you give is awesome. Thanks!

    • alexaludeman
      September 19, 2018 @ 3:53 pm

      Hi Glenda – correct you are! The two ideas amount to the same thing in the end, but I’ve re-worded it to match the way I did it in the pictures.

      You may want to also check out our German Short Row tutorial, if you are new to short rows they can be a little easier.

  9. Silvia
    March 12, 2018 @ 8:53 am

    Short rows…clear as Mud!!! I followed step by step, instruction by instruction and still managed to mess it up!!!
    But Ian very glad that you have the tutorials here.
    Love the Cardigan.

  10. Lorelle
    February 7, 2018 @ 2:23 pm

    Thankyou for making it all so very clear. I have found that not only are your patterns well written but these extra techniques have been very helpful to me. Many thanks.

  11. Mommo
    September 19, 2017 @ 7:48 am

    Arg. Thought I had w&t figured out in the Gramps sweater until I finished the 8 rows and discovered the wraps were all stacked on top of each other. I guess I couldn’t figure out where the 3 sts before the gap were. Any helpful advice for me? I feel the original markers were getting in the way. Should each wrap be marked each time I do one so I am ready for the next row? Your tutorials are great but the one for w&t just showed the first one. I need more help than that. Thank you. This is such a cute sweater. Can hardly wait to finish it and start another. Mommo

    • alexaludeman
      September 20, 2017 @ 11:51 am

      Another way of putting it is 2 sts before the wrapped stitch, does that make it a little clearer? You can also put a locking stitch marker in the wrapped stitch so it’s crystal clear!

    • Mommo
      October 12, 2017 @ 5:59 am

      Thank you. I put a marker at each w&t which made it easy to figure out where to do the next one. They are all now finished, picked up, buttonholes made, ready to bind off. Thanks for your help. Great sweater!

  12. Cathie
    July 13, 2017 @ 2:41 am

    Oh my. I was feeling thrilled with my efforts completing the short rows. Then disaster. Somehow I messed up the picking up of the wrapped stitches. Tried to knit back and that was an even bigger disaster. Now it looks like I’m back to picking up the band all over again. Feel like crying. Hopefully the pick up will be more successful next time!

  13. Andrea
    June 24, 2017 @ 9:15 am

    Hello – I’m picking up the stitches for the Right Front and I’m a bit confused about ending with an even number of stitches. Do you mean the total picked up for the section? So if I’ve ended on a set of 3 which equals an odd total, should I just pick up 1 more OR 3 more to get an even number?

    • alexaludeman
      June 26, 2017 @ 9:41 am

      Hi Andrea – You will want to count up the sts you have picked up for the right front and make sure it’s an even number. If it’s odd you can pick up one extra stitch or drop one to make it an even number.

  14. Cindy wedzinga
    June 2, 2017 @ 2:13 pm

    I am at the short row collar shaping making the size 5/6. I am wondering how many wrapped stitches in total i should have when finished for this size. I have 12 wraps marked now in this section but am confused when it says work short rows 1-2 a total of 7 times. Does this mean i will have a total of 18 wrapped stitches or 11 by this point. Also when I am finished this part and the instructions say work in ribbing to the end of the row does this mean down the left an right front or just the short row section. Thanks so much

    • alexaludeman
      June 2, 2017 @ 9:54 pm

      At the end of the short rows you will have 16 short rows, 8 on each side: one for each of the 2 set up rows and two for each repeat of rows 1-2.

      Once the short rows are complete you will be working the button bands and Shawl collar as one, working the entire row.

  15. Cindy wedzinga
    May 30, 2017 @ 11:12 am

    I am picking up the stitches on the right front to begin button band and collar. I have picked up to first marker but am unsure how far to go for right neckline. Is it the first seam or the second seam where the sleeve comes out of. I am thinking the first seam and then pick up for back neck.

    • alexaludeman
      May 30, 2017 @ 11:51 am

      Hi Cindy – the right neckline is the sts from the marker to the cast on sts.

  16. janin
    May 28, 2017 @ 1:30 am

    thank u soo much for the article and detailed explanation its very helpful thank u

  17. Mary Zacherl
    March 20, 2017 @ 9:25 am

    I want to do this sweater for our first great grandson.

    Cant seem to find the whole pattern.

    Can you help me please

  18. Rachael
    March 15, 2017 @ 9:46 am

    Hello Tin Cat Knits,
    Before I ask my question, I would like to commend you on your tutorials they are very helpful. That being said I am stuck on the shawl collar. Elizabeth Marche Norsingle asked the same question,but I still need some clarification as I am not sure what a cast on stitch is. Does right neckline end and back neck begin at the shoulder join or just before. Thanks so much for taking the time to read my question

    • alexaludeman
      March 16, 2017 @ 1:27 pm

      Hi Rachael: A cast on stitch is one of the sts you cast on at the very beginning of the sweater.

  19. Elizabeth Marche Norsingle
    January 17, 2017 @ 5:06 pm

    I have a question and it might be very obvious but for some reason I can’t figure it out. Where should the right neck end? I know it begins after the clip marker but I have no idea where to stop and place the next marker for the back neck. I would love some assistance thanks!

    • alexaludeman
      January 19, 2017 @ 9:47 am

      Hi Elizabeth – It will be where the cast on stitches are.

  20. Barb aka knittingquilter
    November 20, 2016 @ 11:39 am

    Thank you so much for this tutorial, I have made a sweater for my hubby and had no clue how to do a button band with a shawl collar. This really will help me

  21. Angie
    November 18, 2016 @ 7:45 am

    There is no hyperlink to the button hole tutorial.

    • alexaludeman
      November 21, 2016 @ 10:50 pm

      All fixed, thanks!

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  24. Maria
    October 22, 2016 @ 1:52 pm

    I live in Mexico can I download the instructions?

    • alexaludeman
      October 23, 2016 @ 12:35 am

      Hi Maria – the pattern is available as a PDF download so I don’t see why not. Cheers

  25. Liliana elguera alegría
    October 19, 2016 @ 1:58 pm

    Esta lindisimo,pero x donde empiezo? C tejen las partes x separado o en uno solo ? Deganme x favor,y mil gracias,adoro sus modelos!!!!:-)

    • alexaludeman
      October 20, 2016 @ 12:48 pm

      Hi Liliana – You definitely want to start at the first tutorial and get the pattern, Gramps is knit in one piece from the top down.

  26. Tammy
    October 15, 2016 @ 8:52 am

    Wonderful tutorial! Great pics and clear instructions. Do you have this same patter in adult women’s size?

    • alexaludeman
      October 19, 2016 @ 9:36 am

      Hi Tammy – yep, our updated Gramps pattern comes sized from baby to big!

  27. Sarah
    September 14, 2016 @ 3:21 pm

    Hi, quick question when picking up stitches for shawl collar. Right front even # of stitches, right neckline odd # of sts, back of neck odd # of sts? Left neckline and left front same as right?

    • alexaludeman
      September 14, 2016 @ 8:48 pm

      Hi Sarah – you have it right, what is the question?

      • Victoria
        November 30, 2019 @ 9:07 pm

        The pattern doesn’t say how many for back neckline, I think that was the question.

      • alexaludeman
        December 2, 2019 @ 1:21 pm

        It’s the cast on number.

  28. Robyn O'Neill
    September 9, 2016 @ 11:37 pm

    Hi all. I have been a keen knitter for many years but have never knitted a top down jumper before (maybe it’s because I live down under!). Like many of you in the comments I have learned a lot from this experience and have benefitted hugely from your questions and answers – so thank you all :). I am knitting the 2-4 year size of Gramps for a wee friend and so far so good but the collar is going to be a real challenge! All I can say is I have no idea how I managed before online tutorials, YouTube instructions and great online support from the TinCan team. Now, lets see what the collar is up to …. Happy Knitting :)

  29. Lyndsey
    July 1, 2016 @ 4:32 pm

    Just starting the collar and button band section, where it says kfb, am I increasing in every stitch of the collar section?

    • alexaludeman
      July 3, 2016 @ 10:28 am

      Hi Lyndsey – you are doubling the number of stitches at the back neck.

      • petersond11
        June 4, 2017 @ 7:18 pm

        Hi! Great tutorial- thank you :). Similar question, even though you say to double the number of stitches, I’m confused that pattern says (at set up WS) to Kfb to 1 stitch before marker- that makes me think I should stop at that last stitch before the marker and knit it plain. But of course that messes up the number of stitches for ribbing…?

      • alexaludeman
        June 5, 2017 @ 4:36 pm

        You are going to work kfb to 1 stitch before marker, then you will k1, (p1, k1) to last stitch, p1

      • Marsha Jones
        March 20, 2018 @ 10:49 am

        When the instructions say kfb to 1 stitch before next marker…that means every stitch…correct ???? ….kfb every stitch …….or kfb,p,kfb,p..etc

      • alexaludeman
        March 21, 2018 @ 11:30 am

        Hi Marsha – yep, that means every stitch.

  30. Helen Hare
    June 28, 2016 @ 4:08 am

    Perhaps i’m over thinking the short rows….
    1) does it matter how you slip (and slip back) the stitch you end up wrapping? Some places online seem to say purlwise, others knitwise, you don’t specify which I suppose means it doesn’t matter but might mean you have a habit of slipping in one particular manner unless otherwise specified.

    2) This is within ribbing (2×2) so it seems that the stitch to be slipped and wrapped and slipped is changing from a knit to a purl row by row. Is the premise still

    2. Bring the yarn to other side of the work
    3. slip the next stitch from LH to RH needle
    4. Put the yarn back to the work side of the work
    5. TURN the work
    6. Slip the stitch back from what is now the LH needle to what is now the RH needle, WITHOUT working the stitch. You may need to move the yarn to the appropriate side of the work for the next stitch

    As ever, so reliant on the TCK tutorials. Currently working on a Lush, my first ever non-accessory garment for myself. Loving it, and the Rainbow Heirloom yarn, so very keen to make as polished an end garment as possible!

    • alexaludeman
      June 28, 2016 @ 9:18 am

      Hi Helen

      I always slip purlwise unless otherwise specified. This is because slipping purlwise doesn’t change the stitch, but slipping knitwise twists it.

      The premise of short rows is:
      bring the yarn to the other side of the work
      slip the next stitch from LH to RH
      move the yarn back
      move the stitch back
      turn
      Get ready for the next stitch, whichever side of the work the yarn needs to be on.
      It doesn’t really matter if you turn before you slip that stitch back or after, that’s just how I do it.

      You may also want to try German short rows, I find them a bit easier to get polished myself.

  31. Rhea Tripp
    May 16, 2016 @ 5:17 am

    I have completed the collar but I don’t understand how to work the button bands at the same time, Now I have a collar but no button bands. Do I just knit back and forth on the band? Look forward to hear from you.

    • alexaludeman
      May 16, 2016 @ 1:12 pm

      Hi Rhea – I’m not sure what you mean by a collar but no button bands? Do you mean you have all the short rows? Just proceed to the next section….

  32. Maggie
    January 5, 2016 @ 4:30 pm

    A few knitters have asked about the picked up wraps leaving an obvious stitch on the left side of the Gramps, as seen on the right in the example above. That will happen if you pick up the wrap like the example, which is on a K stitch. If you are picking up a wrap on a P stitch, pick up the wrap in the back, as seen on YouTube, KNITFreedom Hot to Hide Purl Wraps. Then both sides of the shawl collar will look the same!

  33. Kim
    December 24, 2015 @ 7:14 pm

    So I made a boo boo, I took off the locking stitch markers when I completed the yoke, didn’t realize until I’ve started picking up stitches that I shouldn’t have done that. Is there any way to get back on track?

    • Emily Wessel
      December 24, 2015 @ 11:08 pm

      Just take a look at the work – if you look carefully, you’ll be able to see where the line of increases, worked to shape the neckline, begins. Just put your locking stitch marker in this row, at the beginning and end. It’s not crucial that it’s 100% accurate, just that it’s on about the same row on each side.

      • Kim
        December 26, 2015 @ 2:21 pm

        Ok, I took your advice and added a lifeline through a row of stitches. However, I’m having an issue with the w&t. For some reason I noticed that one button band is larger. Are we working the wrap & turn only in the right and left neck line? I’m working the w&t then knit to the end of the row

      • alexaludeman
        December 31, 2015 @ 10:43 am

        The wrap and turn is adding fabric and the collar, so it won’t extend all the way down the button band.

  34. Daniele
    December 12, 2015 @ 2:44 am

    OK so I know this is simple but am I supposed to literally pick up stitches in the first 3 front rows, skip one row, and pick up 3 more ect? For some reason I’m confused about the pick up and knit approximately 3 sts in every 4 rows to locking stitch marker part. When I look at the pictures it looks like a stitch was picked up in every front row before and after necklines.

    • alexaludeman
      December 13, 2015 @ 11:57 pm

      Hi Daniele – yep, pick up 1 stitch in each row for 3 sts, then skip 1 row

  35. Jane Fletcher
    December 8, 2015 @ 2:40 pm

    What do you mean by ‘the gap’? Is it the marker that depicts the collar on both sides or does it have to do with the last wrapped stitch? Very helpful tutorial – thank you!

    • alexaludeman
      December 9, 2015 @ 9:38 am

      The gap is between the wrapped stitch and the stitch after it.

  36. Snyder Denise
    December 2, 2015 @ 11:13 am

    I am doing the size 2-4 yrs. sweater. I did not see the errata anywhere and did row A and Row B. I am up to short row 1, not sure where the “gap” is ??? Should I rip out Row A and B ?

  37. Jane
    November 17, 2015 @ 8:22 pm

    Just want to confirm that I should delete ‘setup row A (rs)’ & ‘setup row B (ws)’ in my pattern and move to ‘short row 1 (rs)’ & continue. Also, what is the ‘gap’ – is it the first marker? This tutorial has been a life saver for me – really appreciate it.

    • alexaludeman
      November 18, 2015 @ 10:03 am

      Hi Jane – so you are deleting the second set up row (RS) at the end of the ‘button band and shawl collar section’, the ‘short row collar shaping’ section is correct.

  38. Jenny S
    October 28, 2015 @ 2:02 am

    Very, very, very informative. I’m a beginner, and yet I feel like a pro. Thank you so much! :)

  39. Rib
    September 30, 2015 @ 6:53 am

    I am picking up the stitches from the right side (knit side, stockinette) and knitting the contrast color as I pick up each stitch. The pattern then calls for me to return through the newly knit row from the wrong side to do a set up row creating a shawl collar. I had no trouble picking up the stitches, but the newly created row of knits were too tight for the return. How can I keep these looser?? I have only been a knitter for 18 mos so still consider myself an advanced beginner.

    I thought I was holding the CC yarn without tension but it seemed to tighten with each stitch. I had to pull the whole thing out and need suggestions before I try again.

  40. Hanna
    September 25, 2015 @ 7:01 pm

    I am finding your tutorial so helpful but am stuck right before short row collar shaping. I have the new version of the pattern. I finished Set up (WS) and Ribbing (RS) under button band and shawl collar. Under short row collar shaping – Setup row A (RS) doesn’t make sense to me. How can a RS row follow a RS row?

    • alexaludeman
      September 29, 2015 @ 10:06 am

      Hi Hanna – there is an errata for Gramps, the Set up row A (RS) has been removed (proceed from the WS set up straight to short rows)

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  43. Barbara
    April 6, 2015 @ 7:24 pm

    About the collar again – when picking up the stitches you say pick up and knit. Does this literally mean pick a stitch and then knit it? The tutorial pictures show the picking up of a stitch then moving on to pick up the next stitch.

  44. Barbara
    April 6, 2015 @ 6:54 pm

    Love this sweater but having trouble understanding the shawl – where is says Set up (WS) after picking up all the stitches is says to kfb between second marker and third marker (ie the back neck portion) does this mean every stitch in that portion thus doubling the amount of stitches. In the tutorial this row is completely absent and says to rib on the WS . Thanks Barbara

    • alexaludeman
      April 7, 2015 @ 9:29 am

      Hi Barbara
      The tutorial is a bit out of date, we have since updated the pattern (including adding more sts at the back neck). You are correct, in order to get a nice big shawl collar you are doubling the sts at the back neck.

  45. iloveshoes
    March 16, 2015 @ 1:04 pm

    I am wanting to add a shawl collar to an adult cardigan that I plan to knit. Would I follow the same procedure in terms of short rows as on this smaller cardigan? Thanks.

  46. Debbie Williams
    March 15, 2015 @ 6:17 pm

    on pattern I purchased the instructions on the “short row collar shaping” tells me to work in ribbing to 2 sts PAST fourth marker , but on the tutorial the instruction says to work in ribbing to 2 sts BEFORE the last marker. Maybe it doesn’t make a difference. What should I do?

    • alexaludeman
      March 20, 2015 @ 2:34 pm

      Follow the pattern. There are 2 versions out there and our tutorial represents the older version. Principles are the same but the details differ.

  47. Rachel Boothe
    March 12, 2015 @ 2:59 pm

    Thank you for this wonderful tutorial. When the short rows on the shawl collar are finished, and you begin the button band, will you still be knitting on the shawl collar portion of the garment?

    • alexaludeman
      March 20, 2015 @ 2:35 pm

      Yep, they are all one.

  48. Debbie Widner
    February 18, 2015 @ 8:48 am

    Alexa, I need your help! I have picked up my sts for button band and shawl collar. I did so from right side of sweater. Had some difficulty undoing my crochet prov. cast on, but very slowly got those sts! I ended up having 38 instead of the co of 35. Will this make any difference????? After picking up on around, I was at LEFT FRONT of bottom edge of cardi, I then turned my work to be on WS to do SET UP. my second question/help I need is that on completion of WS SET UP row, will I be at bottom of Left Front edge??? If correct, I would proceed to short row collar shaping (tutorial, if understand correctly, start at right front edge). Thanks for any input. This little fellow is so cute. I hope I don’t mess up now!

    • Debbie Widner
      February 18, 2015 @ 9:04 am

      Above should have asked if after WS Set Up Row, will I be at bottom of Right Front edge of Cardigan( and not as I typed left front edge). Thanks a bunch for help!

    • Emily Wessel
      February 19, 2015 @ 3:00 am

      Hi Debbie – the important thing is that you have an odd number of stitches (so the ribbing setup works) and it is also important that you didn’t DROP any stitches when you unpicked the provisional cast on – because they could create ladders in your work. Just follow the pattern, and proceed to the short-row shaping as it says after your set-up row. And yes, you will be on the RS of the work, starting at the bottom right front of cardigan. Good luck!

      • Debbie Widner
        February 19, 2015 @ 11:26 am

        Thank you Emily for answering back so quickly. You are very early riser as time of reply is 3 a.m.!!! On my increases I did work out so as to have odd # of sts so my rib would be in pattern. This is my first knitted sweater and is just so cute. I may be guarding my grandson when he wears it! Ha Ha. I have learned several new skills by knitting this. I don’t think I could have done it though without your help and also the online tutorials. They have been such a huge help to me! Appreciate all your hard work. A big thank you from me, coming from Arkansas.

  49. Mudd
    February 13, 2015 @ 11:04 am

    Hi, I am picking up stirches and have done the right front and right neckline. For the collar, do I just put back on the yoke stitches I provisionally cast on (they still have scrap yarn through them) or do I actually knit and try to hide this?

    Thanks for your help!

    • alexaludeman
      February 13, 2015 @ 1:19 pm

      If you have used a provisional cast on, unpick and put them on the left needle, then work your increases

      (just FYI the older version of the pattern has a provisional cast on, the newer version doesn’t because the larger sizes need a little structure at the neckline)

  50. sam
    October 6, 2014 @ 2:09 pm

    I ended at the last stictch of the collar. I could not figure out how the right and left front are continued to knit to make to button band. The picture is showed one row of the band and finish with the collar, Where to start for
    the second row and…..of the right and lert front?

    • alexaludeman
      October 17, 2014 @ 2:41 pm

      Hi Sam

      I’m not sure I understand your question, to work the second row of the shawl collar / button band you will turn your work and follow the pattern for the second row.

  51. Mary Winegar
    September 23, 2014 @ 10:10 pm

    A couple of questions. This is for the Gramps sweater. For the w&t, the instructions say to work to 3 stitches before the gap and then w&t. So for each row do you w&t on the same stitch (the 3rd stitch from gap) because that doesn’t seem to change. You don’t really have a tutorial picture of that. You have HOW to do the stitch but not where it comes for each row.

    Also, when do you work the button band? While you are doing the shawl collar or after? No real clear instructions on that either.

    I love the sweater though. It’s going to be really cute when done. Thanks, Mary

    • alexaludeman
      September 25, 2014 @ 3:07 pm

      The ‘Gap’ will change each row. It occurs after the wrapped stitch (so another way to think about is knitting to 2 sts before the wrapped stitch)

      • Mary Winegar
        October 6, 2014 @ 9:34 am

        Thank you

  52. stitchandknit
    August 9, 2014 @ 11:49 am

    Hi enjoying my Gramps so far but a bit confused – I’ve picked up sts for button band &shawl collar, done the st up row (ws) , the next row called ribbing (RS) but it then goes to set up row A for the collar (also labelled RS) . How can a RS follow a RS ? Have I missed something?
    Thanks
    Rowan

    • Barbara
      April 6, 2015 @ 6:47 pm

      Yes I have the same problem as you stitchandknit.

  53. Kathy Bonaccorsi
    March 28, 2014 @ 3:20 am

    Help! I’m on the shawl of the Gramps sweater. Each time I knit or purl to 2, 6, 10, etc. before last marker… goes this become the “new” marker spot or do I keep with the original marker? Thanks!

    • alexaludeman
      March 28, 2014 @ 5:26 pm

      Keep the same marker! You will be moving further and further away from it.

      • Kathy Bonaccorsi
        March 29, 2014 @ 5:48 am

        many thanks! lost a bit of sleep over it, but I was doing it right! Appreciate your reply so much!

  54. Kristi
    February 11, 2014 @ 6:56 am

    This tutorial has been very helpful, but now I am having a brain freeze. Approximately, how many stiches should be part of the short row patterns. Should it be fhe full yolk or where we picked up the provisional cast on stiiches?

    • alexaludeman
      February 11, 2014 @ 8:31 pm

      Short rows are worked approximately between the neck edge increases (a few stitches over actually)

  55. Diane True
    December 7, 2013 @ 5:15 am

    Totally love your tutorial! Any thoughts on how you would add a shawl collar to an adult cardigan?? I realize its the same premise … just trying to figure out how you know when to show the short rows… Thanks so much! Your an angel for these tutorials!

    • Emily Wessel
      December 11, 2013 @ 5:15 pm

      Sometime relatively soon (in the next 6 months) we will be releasing a revised version of gramps… the pattern will be sized from baby all the way to adult 4XL (like our other patterns!). So you can find out all the details soon!

      • Andrea
        December 11, 2013 @ 5:20 pm

        That’s amazing!!! Since knitting the gramps sweater for my nephew I have gad two requests for “grown up” ones!! :)

      • iloveshoes
        March 16, 2015 @ 1:07 pm

        Great. This answered the question I just asked.

  56. Barb Steere
    December 5, 2013 @ 2:27 pm

    I am knitting a top down raglan sleeve cardigan sweater with a shawl collar. I’ve picked up all the stitches needed for the buttonband & shawl collar. I’m wondering if i need to knit both the buttonband & the collar until I have the correct width for the buttonband & then begin the short row shaping for the collar??? Can you help me???

    • Emily Wessel
      December 11, 2013 @ 5:16 pm

      What pattern are you knitting? I can’t say how it’s done unless I have the pattern in front of me.

  57. Andrea
    October 28, 2013 @ 6:57 pm

    Hi there. When I knit my wrapped stitches, I ended up with some little bumps showing up on the shawl part….and only on the right side on the front….have I made a mistake or is this normal? I tried looking at other pictures of the sweater and think I see them on others but its hard to be sure. If anyone can help/advise, it would be greatly appreciated. Wondering whether to rip back right now……

    • Cindy
      February 13, 2014 @ 11:05 am

      Hi Andrea, I had this same issue and you’re the only one I’ve seen mention it. Thank you for helping me not think I’m hyper picky! I also noticed this on other pictures of the sweater. Were you able to correct it? Any help would be very appreciated. Thank you! Cindy

  58. Valerie Coyle
    September 13, 2013 @ 8:57 am

    thank you so very much for taking the time to post this tutorial. After 20 years of leaving the knitting in a bag, I have picked up my old needles , actually I have replaced them with some circular and double-pointed needles. I did a lot of knitting in the early nineties and things have changed . If it hadn’t been for this website I think I would have thrown the “Gramps” sweater in the closet. Instead, I was able to learn some new techniques and will begin the short rows today. Can’t thank you enough for the help!!

    • Emily Wessel
      September 13, 2013 @ 3:02 pm

      Hi Valerie – really glad you found it helpful, and great to hear you didn’t have to throw the project in the closet! After completing Gramps you will have learned most of the techniques you need to knit most seamless sweater patterns! Congrats! ~ Emily

  59. annie
    May 11, 2013 @ 9:20 am

    thanks for a detailed article with pictures

  60. Erin
    April 5, 2013 @ 10:31 pm

    Why are the right hand collar stitches picked up from the inside but all the rest are picked up from the outside?

    • alexaludeman
      April 5, 2013 @ 10:34 pm

      Hi Erin

      The right and left hand collar stitches are picked up from the inside because of the way the collar folds over. The idea is to hide your seams as much as possible.

      • Marilyn
        January 10, 2016 @ 1:53 pm

        Does the pattern book have instructions for this or is this an intermediate knitter should know? I missed this point so will follow the advice of a seasoned knitter,” reworking is really just more knitting”

      • alexaludeman
        January 12, 2016 @ 12:55 pm

        Hi Marilyn – the pattern is in the book 9 Months of Knitting, this is just a supplement to help those who are new to some of those techniques

  61. disha
    September 13, 2012 @ 6:21 am

    thank u soo much for the article and detailed explanation its very helpful thank you

  62. The Modern Home Economist
    April 5, 2012 @ 12:30 am

    Such an adorable cardigan. Thank you so much for the detailed tutorial!